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Feb 27 16 10:16 PM

Xanatos wrote:

Emsi wrote:
Vorador's own return remains a mystery to me, and I can only assume that Elder Kain might have had a hand in that.

I think that Elder Kain would take a more covert approach also because a meeting with younger self could have possible paradoxical repurcussions. 






 

Paradoxes cannot occur without Reaver convergence. Much as when Raziel met and killed his Sarafan self ("but he killed Sarafan Raz with the Reaver, that's a convergence!" - That was the Blood Reaver. Tripped me up too for a bit. It gets confusing.), Elder Kain meeting his younger self would result in a mere time loop - unless they fought each other while both armed with the Soul Reaver.

As for Moebius, his soul explicitly went to the Elder God at Defiance's end. And contrary to vampires whose powers lie in their evolving supernatural souls, Moebius' magic is tied up in his role as Guardian. His power does not lie with his soul but with his token, the magical hourglass. When he dies for good, that magic returns to the Pillar of Time. Raziel couldn't assimilate it even if he had eaten Moebius' soul.

And what is it with the constant ideas of bringing Raziel back. Raziel is gone. Fixation on him just gets us things like that lame hybrid protagonist they invented for Dead Sun just to blatantly mimic Raziel. XP

true..but we cant say for certion wather mobius is truly dead or not and raziels soul not only became part of the soul reaver it became apart of kain..even in blood omen 1 it looked like mobius was aware that kain whould kill had this happend before,and the elder god does seem like he has the power over life and death as mobius saied (my master will breath life into me once more)..but idk if the elder god is capable of dieing..if he truly was killed theres a more important question then (if he knew all this why did he deem mobius useless instead of reviving him and was the elder god there to see and die for there change of nosgoth?),how did the elder god come to be?
while there are severel possabiltys that chould have happend from defiance to the next LOK game (should it pick off from there), alot of things mostly concern kain now you if kain meets his past self a loop will happen..like everything being (brought back to life not knowing what had happen even mobies and the elder god) and happing in a dif way with the same possable result, not even the time streamer whould know.
kain kills his past self being the only copy left,thats the other possabilty how he knew about all this in the start of soul reaver..but he chould have not went trough sending raziel into the abis..but if so why..my opinion vampires cant change the out come of there death and there bound to wonder the the spirit world not givin life in the real world,but raziel some has the faith to change his hes not bound by life or death..i belive thats what they ment by "he has free will"..while the past kain has the option of killing his other self doing so in my opinion whould case kain to take in the memories of the other but broken images..these whould  be added ontop of the new ones from the others casing them to be replaced..even if the new kain thats in the past kills his old self doing so will bring back things of the past back to life..and everything will happen eather with a dif or same result..but they need some ideas for the new LOK game..even if its not dead sun they will need to make the new game better and more options of chose for nosgoth and its inhabatens..and if defiance hadnt ended that way kain could have taken great pride in placing raziels soul in the reaver the 1st time in there 1st fight of defiance near the end of it..even in soul reaver 1 and 2..but now that the new kain has defeted the elder god (if he has).and has raziels soul in the reaver..what will he do now? theres still the hylden to worry about and having chooses is everthing..but ya.
we need a new LOK game and we gota start somewere..and your still going to play as kain..should the one from defiance die youl end up choosing the time line for a dif version..(blood omen soul reaver soul reaver 2 and defiance) but with our curent gen grapics and a high def apperance over all for the sake of the time we live in now lol..but for real..and no you wont be geting chooses in the form of cards or dialog there based on your action..like if you kill someone important in the events to come wather it be in the futecher or past..killing some less important or some who was going to die anyway but did before there real case can create an alt time line when you time travel..these 'time parhaodoxis' might chould be somthing new you can use you name that new time line and when your kain dies or you just want to switch to anther one..(realy that sounds lot better then using the timestreaming device as well as using the spirit and real world system for kain lot less effort and time dont you think? let me know but if its need for the impossable forgive me )..even make your own blood omen 2 time line and even 3..but these will be linked to eachother 1 game in each now like..blood omen 1 soulreaver 1 and defiance..and defiance with its on time line..all of these can be replayed changed and reapted in the same way like change blood omens timeline finish it and make a blood omen 2 time.but you start off were defiance ended or change to a dif using the time device or main menu..idk..i feel like this idea has a chance for the new LOK game but idk..is it imposable to add these to the new LOK game let me ok?