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Dec 10 15 7:29 PM

I really like your ideas, Bonecao. There has always been a sort of disconnected feeling to me between BO2 and the rest of the series... and not just because of the difference in gameplay (which makes sense in a way, considering that it takes place in a completely different timeline than anything preSR2). Your ideas could go aways toward bridging the gap between the games. Indeed, a little more closure to the end of Defiance would be nice, even though it has a bittersweet charm to it that I can live with if it is indeed the last game we get. 
Certainly a big part of Kain's mission is the destruction or at least permanent containment of the Hylden, however, personally I think the first thing that Kain would do after Defiance would be to find a way to put the Elder God down for good. Kain all but forgot about the Hylden until the events at the end of SR2 when they "walked right into their trap.".The EG seems to be the prime mover behind all the struggles in Nosgoth's history. He no doubt used and manipulated the Hylden just as much as he did the Ancients and the Humans. The EG's goal of destoying the Pillars (the corruption of Nosgoth to fuel his own appetite) aligns closely enough with that of the Hylden, that it would make sense for him to use them to achieve said goal. Not to mention that they could possibly eliminate the only real thorns in his side; Kain and Raziel... or at least keep them occupied while he plots in the background. 

But back to your ideas.. On the subject of Moebius' ressurection via Raziel. Do you think that Raziel is still in possession of his soul? I was under the impression that any soul 'eaten' by Raziel or another wraith in the EG's service was immediately processed and returned to the 'Wheel'? This of course doesn't stop the EG from contacting and plotting with a Moebius from an earlier point in time, if he is truly omnipresent, though. Vorador's own return remains a mystery to me, and I can only assume that Elder Kain might have had a hand in that. I also have to wonder if, knowing that young Kain will be victorious in the end, if Elder Kain wouldn't rather focus his attention on the EG, as mentioned. Even if he tipped off young Kain about the war, he still would have to deal with Janos, The Device and the inevitable Hylden invasion. Killing off the Hylden currently in Nosgoth (BO2 era) would only be treating the sympton and not the cause, who I believe to be the EG. It would have been interesting to have a game where Elder Kain moves parallel to young Kain during BO2, but out of sight. It could have created an interesting perspective to have young Kain cutting a bloody path through the traitors and Hylden, while Elder Kain moves behind the scenes ensuring his victory (and perhaps even rescuing him from the aftermath of the battle where young Kain slipped into a coma, and delivering him to Vorador, kind of like you alluded to) and also searching for ways to kill the EG. I think that Elder Kain would take a more covert approach also because a meeting with younger self could have possible paradoxical repurcussions. 

I don't know, it's really difficult to speculate what actions Kain would take after Defiance. But it's always fun to throw around ideas.